This morning I was taken back to the first part of 2005 when I first started blogging at WKRN. It was then that I dared to say the following:
Why is it that when right-wing bloggers talk about Gitmo they fail to mention that there is no way to know if those being held there are guilty of anything at all? Many of these detainees have had no charges formally filed against them and even after the Supreme Court ruled that prisoners at Gitmo have the right to legal representation almost two-thirds still have none.
After making such an outlandish claim, I was then piled upon by Bill Hobbs and Lance in Iraq, who is no longer in Iraq but instead works as a Republican lackey. Those two far-right-wing bloggers went so far as to call me a propagandist who “regurgitates insurgent talking points.” [scroll all the way down] They also called for their sycophant readers to call in to the station where I worked to voice their complaint about my al-Jazeera-like website.
Why was I reminded of that painful time caused by the idiocy of a couple of neo-con warmongers? Oh, only this story from NPR confirming the sentiment I took such shit for expressing:
It was among the largest detainee transfers from Guantanamo. Over the past few years, about 420 prisoners have been released — that’s more than half the total number incarcerated at Guantanamo since the opening days of the war on terror.
Joanne Mariner, a counter-terrorism expert with Human Rights Watch, said her organization has been tracking what has happened to those detainees who have been released.
“We found that most detainees have basically returned back to obscurity. They haven’t been involved in any kind of violent acts, and they’ve essentially returned to their lives,” she said.
From the moment the detainees first started arriving at Guantanamo in January 2002, and for a few years thereafter, the Bush administration portrayed the men as ruthless killers, the worst of the worst, sentiments echoed at the time by former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Richard Myers.
“These are people that would gnaw through hydraulic lines in the back of a C-17 to bring it down. So these are very, very dangerous people,” Myers said.
Rumsfeld said Guantanamo contained prisoners “perfectly willing to kill themselves and kill other people.”
Critics, however, say that the release of hundreds of detainees undermines the administration’s assertion that all Guantanamo prisoners are extremely dangerous. They say it is likely there was not enough evidence to hold them in the first place.
The quality of evidence was also called into question recently by a military officer who sharply criticized the process, known as Combatant Status Review Tribunal, or CSRT, used to decide whether a detainee should be held indefinitely. Reserve Army Lt. Col. Stephen Abraham heard some of the evidence against the detainees.
“In reality, the information upon which CSRT decisions were based were vague, generalized, dated, and of little probative value,” he said.
Why do I bring this up now? Because extremely partisan bloggers like Lance Frizzell and Bill Hobbs can accuse others of hating America and aiding the enemy, only to later be proven wrong, then never see any retribution for their short-sighted and moronic overreactions. However, this blog post isn’t retribution. I am not capable of such a thing. But it is a reminder of (and to) all those so-called patriots who abused and accused so many of us who were genuinely trying to carry on a dialog about the horrors of this war and the policies of this administration. They attempted to shut down conversation about human injustices and atrocities at the hands of our great nation. I’m glad to see that they failed. And I’m glad to see that labeling people haters of the country is on the decline. But I am most glad to see that innocent detainees who were never even charged with any wrongdoing are now free to live their lives in whatever peace they might be allowed.
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Amen.
Brittney:
I advise you to check out this report. This is the latest and greates from the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point. It states that 73% of the detainees are a demonstrated threat against the U.S. and our allies. This is what a demonstrated threat means:
* explicitly and without qualification supported or waged hostile activities against the U.S. or coalition partners
* fought for al Qaeda or the Taliban or associated forces
* received training in an al Qaeda or Taliban training camp
* received training in the use of combat weapons beyond small arms (grenades, rpg’s, ied’s, sniper rifles, etc.)
What say you about this report?
Amen. Of course, heavy handed partisan remarks always have a way of biting people in the ass later. A little objectivity goes a long way.
Eric, I’m not going to hash out whether the detainees that remain at Guantanamo are or are not all those things that West Point says they are. This post is about squashing discussion for partisan gains.
I think one has to compare the number of convictions of Gitmo detainees to the number of terrorism convictions gleaned under that rather striking woman, Janet Reno, to move forward in this discussion.
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>What say you about this report?
I for one say 73% is a low D bordering absolute failure in any school.
Oh, Brittney. Your naievity would be heartwarming if it wasn’t so consistantly bordering on criminal. The people who were taken in to Guantanamo Bay were all part of the chain that threatens our nation today, just like that couple in Ashville that attacked a cop and made up a story about how he “broke into their house”. This is the sort of thing you endorse? It is impossible to deny that keeping these prisoners at Guantanamo Bay made our nation safer, just as it is impossible to deny the immediate threat that Iran makes to this nation. Maybe if you’d focus a little more on helping your elected leaders sacrifce to win this war and a little less time cunting away with your oversexed dogs problems like this would vanish like the Social Security money that Bill Clinton supposedly set aside, but guess those sort of lies don’t merit investigation, huh?
Many bloggers and pundits have been fleeing from their hardcore hatefulness without really admitting to being wrong or at least hasty about writing their views in the past year or two.
I’ve never understood those who fear open and free debate. To me that’s proof of an absence of logic or reason to your beliefs.
Secret prisons and permanent detention without any charges are the tools of despotism, and deeply anti-American.
Brittney,
That’s fine. I merely just wanted to point out the flip side of the argument.
And can you block The Seventh Meat?? He’s just ruining the dialogue on this post!
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